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but i don't think she or the obama administration has many notable diplomatic accomplishiments. the syria problem is-- seemed. the middle east situation seems pretty much stalled out. can. >> rose: do you believe benghazi will be a cirrus law on her record? >> i think it is a flaw. but i don't think it will be a lasting flaw. it was a systemic breakdown. there was an independent review that established there was a lot of culpability of a lot of people on the sixth floor of the state department, but she was on the seventh floor, and certainly, her posture has been she accepts responsibility for what happened but not blame, and that's pret much what played out today in two hearings. she was uncharacteristically emotional in describing the death of the four americans. so i don't think it's going to be an impediment to what everybody assumes are her longer term political ambitions to run for the presidency. >> rose: what struck you about the testimony today that was noteworthy? >> well, there was very little that shed new light on the white house role. you know, there was an indepen
but i don't think she or the obama administration has many notable diplomatic accomplishiments. the syria problem is-- seemed. the middle east situation seems pretty much stalled out. can. >> rose: do you believe benghazi will be a cirrus law on her record? >> i think it is a flaw. but i don't think it will be a lasting flaw. it was a systemic breakdown. there was an independent review that established there was a lot of culpability of a lot of people on the sixth floor of the state...
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she also responded to criticism that the obama administration misled the public about who carried out the attack. >> the fact is, we had four dead americans! >> i understand. >> was it because of a protest or because of guys out for a walk some night who decided they would go kill some americans? what difference at this point does it make?! >> reporter: but some lawmakers were not satisfied with clinton's testimony. >> all these warnings, all these things -- we didn't have a single department of defense asset apparently available to come to the rescue. the american people and the families of these four brave americans still have not gotten the answers that they deserve. >> reporter: secretary of state hillary clinton was supposed to be here on capitol hill last month but postponed her testimony after suffering a concussion and developing a blood clot near her brain. clinton testified that the fbi has some promising leads into who carried out the attack. >> what they are trying to determine is how best to respond. >> reporter: clinton told lawmakers she is determined to leave the state
she also responded to criticism that the obama administration misled the public about who carried out the attack. >> the fact is, we had four dead americans! >> i understand. >> was it because of a protest or because of guys out for a walk some night who decided they would go kill some americans? what difference at this point does it make?! >> reporter: but some lawmakers were not satisfied with clinton's testimony. >> all these warnings, all these things -- we...
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was in power and now the obama administration has you know uniformly embraced it the obama administration has aggressively refused to allow any checks and balances and has even refused congressional requests to disclose how many americans have been spied on so things like that i mean a really troubling and i don't think he's going to get as much pushback from congress as as one might hope in the foreign policy realm obama as unfortunately continued much of his predecessor's excesses and recklessness we will see a continuation of foreign policy of extreme interventionism getting involved in every corner of the planet regardless of the consequences. when i return back to our top story this hour the aftermath of the deadly hostage siege in algeria carried out by islamist terrorists in retaliation for the french campaign in mali live to a former british ambassador to algeria graeme han. from london thank you for being with us with us ambassador several british civilians were among those killed during the gas plant takeover will go in continue do you think to support the french intervention in
was in power and now the obama administration has you know uniformly embraced it the obama administration has aggressively refused to allow any checks and balances and has even refused congressional requests to disclose how many americans have been spied on so things like that i mean a really troubling and i don't think he's going to get as much pushback from congress as as one might hope in the foreign policy realm obama as unfortunately continued much of his predecessor's excesses and...
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are you willing to say we will put boots on the ground, something the obama administration does not want to do and the american people do not want to do right now? >> you have to ask. there are a whole series of options here that we can put into play. and it has to be a coordinated effort. this isn't just about mali. the french have very capable special forces. they are going to put hurt on these folks. there are things we can do for them short of boots on the ground. i would encourage the president to continue to do that. if you -- this is going to get worse. you cannot allow this to become a national security issue for the united states. i argue it has crossed that threshold. this area now attracting jihadists and they are really good at this stuff including hostage taking because they have been doing it for decades and have been the largest funder to al qaeda. this is a problem we have to deal with. we all ought to sit down and try to come to a consensus short of boots on the ground what options we have available and how we implement them to hasten french victory and to continue to pu
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in some ways efforts by the obama administration actually slowed down the american with respect to the foreign policy there are are you hopeful signs all the nomination hate all my but given the extent to which the obama administration still seems to be a program of using drones. our has the various laws specifically the issue of being able to target and assassinate people sensibly around the world including the beer's americans i'm not sick or sanguine about the prospects or seeing us move forward toward the united states being a country which respects international we and also respects the liberties of our own people. israel will elect a new apartment on tuesday with prime minister benjamin netanyahu predicted to come out on top yet many israelis don't think his policies are radical enough for the one time netanyahu supporter reaping the rewards. reports now on why the israeli leader even has to fight against his former allies. he's the surprise success story of israel's election campaign one twin millionaire who says a palestinian state would be suicide for israel naftali bennett us
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but i don't think she or the obama administration has many notable diplomatic accomplishiments. the syria problem is-- seemed. the middle east situation seems pretty much stalled out. can. >> rose: do you believe benghazi will be a cirrus law on her record? >> i think it is a flaw. but i don't think it will be a lasting flaw. it was a systemic breakdown. there was an independent review that established there was a lot of culpability of a lot of people on the sixth floor of the state department, but she was on the seventh floor and certainly, her posture has been she accepts responsibility for what happened but not blame, and that's pret much what played out today in two hearings. she was uncharacteristically emotional in describing the death of the four americans. so i don't think it's going to be an impediment to what everybody assumes are her longer term political ambitions to run for the presidency. >> rose: what struck you about the testimony today that was noteworthy? >> well, there was very little that shed new light on the white house role. you know, there was an independ
but i don't think she or the obama administration has many notable diplomatic accomplishiments. the syria problem is-- seemed. the middle east situation seems pretty much stalled out. can. >> rose: do you believe benghazi will be a cirrus law on her record? >> i think it is a flaw. but i don't think it will be a lasting flaw. it was a systemic breakdown. there was an independent review that established there was a lot of culpability of a lot of people on the sixth floor of the state...
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administration to deal with a post assad syria. i do you know i don't think i don't think they're prepared to deal with that at all one of the problems with the various american led interventions over the years whether we're talking about bosnia kosovo libya and hopefully not in the future syria is that the goal mediately defined comes first and then worry about the consequences later is something that is not fully taken into account we look at for example the aftershocks of libya in mali and in algeria ok we will leave it and former us senate foreign policy adviser thank you for your time thank you good times at goldman sachs staff at the investment giant are reported to be getting a significant salary boost but a lot of that money has been made on the back of surging food prices which are leaving many around the world starving nearly my colleague in d.c. now we speak to our sees the legacy of ski he's been looking into the matter. this debate has been going on for many years now but this latest controversy is definitely making th
administration to deal with a post assad syria. i do you know i don't think i don't think they're prepared to deal with that at all one of the problems with the various american led interventions over the years whether we're talking about bosnia kosovo libya and hopefully not in the future syria is that the goal mediately defined comes first and then worry about the consequences later is something that is not fully taken into account we look at for example the aftershocks of libya in mali and...
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. >> as the obama administration agrees to aid france's military bombing in mali, over 20 foreign hostages remain unaccounted for in neighboring algeria in what has been described as one of the biggest international hostage crises in decades. then cycling legend lance armstrong admits to oprah winfrey he cheated his way to a record seven tour de france titles. >> yes or no. did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> yes or no. was one of those banned substances epo? >> yes. >> did you ever blood dope or use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> will speak to sportswriter dave zirin, author of, "game over: how politics has turned the sports world upside down." as the fourth anniversary of roe v. wade approaches, we look at how antitrust legislation over the years has criminalize pregnancy, leaving hundreds of women to be forced to undergo unwanted medical procedures and locked up in jail or mental institutions all because there were pregnant? all that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war
. >> as the obama administration agrees to aid france's military bombing in mali, over 20 foreign hostages remain unaccounted for in neighboring algeria in what has been described as one of the biggest international hostage crises in decades. then cycling legend lance armstrong admits to oprah winfrey he cheated his way to a record seven tour de france titles. >> yes or no. did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> yes or no. was...
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infuriated the obama administration, and rightly so. rose: the fact that the palestinians went ahead to urge that vote. >> there was then economic punishment and the e-1 settlements were set into place. there's a real loss of hope. so the reverse of what dennis ross is talking about has happened. there's an increasingly hopelessness on both sides, even though we're not in the middle of some terrible intifada. >> it's a great paradox by the way. >> it is a great paradox. >> rose: some people say they might be--un, there may be the seeds of a third intifada developing. >> well, look, none knows-- anyone who says it won't happen, it's the kind of thing you could light a match and spark is sent and it's triggered. i would say palestinians paid a terrible price for the second intifada and they have not recovered from it and they're anxious that something could still happen. the fact is both have that memory. the key right now is-- david put his fing or something i think is quite important-- you know, it's not just that the-- that you've had
infuriated the obama administration, and rightly so. rose: the fact that the palestinians went ahead to urge that vote. >> there was then economic punishment and the e-1 settlements were set into place. there's a real loss of hope. so the reverse of what dennis ross is talking about has happened. there's an increasingly hopelessness on both sides, even though we're not in the middle of some terrible intifada. >> it's a great paradox by the way. >> it is a great paradox....
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but do you think that the administration has understood that well? >> i think obama understands it. i think obama understands that we're in a new age. if you will, the 20th century was a century of struggle for hegemony. and that involved direct political contests, military power. we are now in an age in which struggle for hegemony makes no sense, it's more whether we can establish enough stability in the world that we can deal with global problems. in that context, economic health is the point of departure. it's also the point of departure for global support for the united states and respect for the united states. >> brown: when he brings up climate change though through security, that's what he's talking about? >> exactly. but i do suspect as a practical matter he's going to be more preoccupied with potential strategic challenges. in the middle east, first of all and that involves a whole gambit of issues, in our relations with china, potentialfully our relations with russia and the growing problem of how do we structure an effective alliance with europe. and these the kind of iss
but do you think that the administration has understood that well? >> i think obama understands it. i think obama understands that we're in a new age. if you will, the 20th century was a century of struggle for hegemony. and that involved direct political contests, military power. we are now in an age in which struggle for hegemony makes no sense, it's more whether we can establish enough stability in the world that we can deal with global problems. in that context, economic health is the...
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but the and it's backed by by washington by the obama administration which gives them additional clout the problem is they just ram through a constitution that in effect what's happening is the muslim brotherhood is establishing an islamic dictatorship i think they're so preoccupied with this sure real agenda this islamization of creating this this state which de facto is emerging to be an islamic fascist regime a totalitarian regime that will regulate every corner of life and they're less concerned evidently with the real functioning know what comedy so that. you probably need to right now a terror attack alarm in libya's second largest city three european governments call for the immediate situation of their citizens and then fears the city could soon be ripped apart by attacks more on that for you in just a few minutes. also ahead the dismal figures which expose britain's fragile finances there is a country may slip into another recession and lose its top notch credit rating up to g.d.p. shrinks again. as stories told to come but first an ex cia veteran who oversaw the capture of hi
but the and it's backed by by washington by the obama administration which gives them additional clout the problem is they just ram through a constitution that in effect what's happening is the muslim brotherhood is establishing an islamic dictatorship i think they're so preoccupied with this sure real agenda this islamization of creating this this state which de facto is emerging to be an islamic fascist regime a totalitarian regime that will regulate every corner of life and they're less...
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ambassador the obama administration had libya checked as a foreign policy success was happening in the region now of course looks anything but success we actually heard that in hillary clinton's testimony as she talked about the spread of extremism in the spread of weapons in the region and the new opening in the war on terror benghazi did not happen in a vacuum the arab revolutions have scrambled power dynamics and shattered security forces across the region instability in mali has created an expanding safe haven for terrorists who look to extend their influence and plot further attacks of the kind we saw just last week in algeria hillary clinton also spoke about how the u.s. needs to help the governments in the region to deal with their security to build their institutions and all of this in the context of this expanding war on terror so to anyone who expected a smaller u.s. footprint in the region that's probably not going to happen from what we heard today if anything one could expect a bigger u.s. footprint in the region and in had testimony hillary clinton confirms the terrorists
ambassador the obama administration had libya checked as a foreign policy success was happening in the region now of course looks anything but success we actually heard that in hillary clinton's testimony as she talked about the spread of extremism in the spread of weapons in the region and the new opening in the war on terror benghazi did not happen in a vacuum the arab revolutions have scrambled power dynamics and shattered security forces across the region instability in mali has created an...
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. >> reporter: republican ron johnson accused the obama administration of covering up the nature of the attack in the weeks following the assault. >> again, we were misled there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that, the assault spring out of that and we learned that that was not the fact and the american people counsel have known that within days. they did not know that. >> the fact is we had four dead americans. was it because of a protest or guys out on a walk because they decided to kill americans. what difference at this point does it make? it is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, senator. >> reporter: clinton focused her testimony on her efforts to fix security issues at the state department. she pointed out that while security costs have gone up, congress has refused requests for more money and cut the state department budget. senator john mccain, a critic of the administration's response to the attacks, said clinton's answers were unsatisfactory. secretary clinton connected what happened
. >> reporter: republican ron johnson accused the obama administration of covering up the nature of the attack in the weeks following the assault. >> again, we were misled there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that, the assault spring out of that and we learned that that was not the fact and the american people counsel have known that within days. they did not know that. >> the fact is we had four dead americans. was it because of a protest or guys...
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the obama administration to say this was a terrorist attack immediately. are they doing a good job handling this one? >> it is too early to tell. this is a difficult one. i'm not going to say that. when you have a group like this that is clearly well-organized, i think it was pre-planned, that had this much success with this many hostages. this is as hard a problem as it gets on the ground to unwind. the outcomes of these are not always great. that said, what we don't have is an overarching policy. this is what many of us have been talking about. mali is the first victim of libya, because of the weapon cashes that were raided and the inability of anyone to stop those weapons and people. you had tune you had tu nearbyians coming down. you have all of this converging together. it makes it a very, have he dangerous recipe. that's why you can't just handle mali or benghazi. you have to have an overarching plan that puts pressure on these groups. you can't just fire a few missiles and pack up and go home and hope for the best. it is not going to work. this is a
the obama administration to say this was a terrorist attack immediately. are they doing a good job handling this one? >> it is too early to tell. this is a difficult one. i'm not going to say that. when you have a group like this that is clearly well-organized, i think it was pre-planned, that had this much success with this many hostages. this is as hard a problem as it gets on the ground to unwind. the outcomes of these are not always great. that said, what we don't have is an...
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administration will be less warmongering towards the bridge but two of the country's leading middle east experts orange convinced vision i would bet a certain amount of money we will hear the words all options are on the table come out of his come out of his mouth in addition to the point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with who will continue many of the covert programs of course or drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for. coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran john brennan has been in charge of president obama's targeted assassinations program is a point of push the notorious war on terror in a different perspective and shows that it's far from over they want wars that will not redound against them at home politically so they don't want any more body bags they don't want more american troops. to the extent they want to prevent th
administration will be less warmongering towards the bridge but two of the country's leading middle east experts orange convinced vision i would bet a certain amount of money we will hear the words all options are on the table come out of his come out of his mouth in addition to the point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with who will continue many of the covert programs of course or drone program but many of the...
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of them such a conflict why are they out front well i think that's the obama administration's strategy let's let france take the hit on this as they did in libya and other places in the past year and a half two years and the u.s. will try to play a less discreet or more discreet role in the background rather than being up front as they were in iraq about it gonna stand which cost us huge amounts of credibility around the world so they're playing a little bit more sly game here but the the rush for the u.s. to announce it supported the french military intervention and the actions of africa over the past year and a half two years that involved you make it clear that this is a u.s. operation with the french as a junior partner how far do you think this conflict could potentially as go late couldn't the friend step bogged down and could we see or who might we see else get involved in it. well i don't think the the other european countries are loath to get involved in the afghan. grant situation with their troops the germans are providing humanitarian aid and some special forces training so
of them such a conflict why are they out front well i think that's the obama administration's strategy let's let france take the hit on this as they did in libya and other places in the past year and a half two years and the u.s. will try to play a less discreet or more discreet role in the background rather than being up front as they were in iraq about it gonna stand which cost us huge amounts of credibility around the world so they're playing a little bit more sly game here but the the rush...
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but do you think that the administration has understood that well? >> i think obama understands it. i think obama understands that we're in a new age. if you will the 20th century was a century of struggle for hegemony. and that involved direct political contests military power. we are now in an age in which struggle for hegemony makes no sense it's more whether we can establish enough stability in the world that we can deal with global problems. in that context economic health is the point of departure. it's also the point of departure for global support for the united states and respect for the united states. >> brown: when he brings up climate change though through security, that's what he's talking about? >> exactly. but i do suspect as a practical matter he's going to be more preoccupied with potential strategic challenges. in the middle east first of all and that involves a whole gambit of issues in our relations with china, potentialfully our relations with russia and the growing problem of how do we structure an effective alliance with europe. and these the kind of issues th
but do you think that the administration has understood that well? >> i think obama understands it. i think obama understands that we're in a new age. if you will the 20th century was a century of struggle for hegemony. and that involved direct political contests military power. we are now in an age in which struggle for hegemony makes no sense it's more whether we can establish enough stability in the world that we can deal with global problems. in that context economic health is the...
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administration so it's going to be a very tough month ahead for coalition forming and this may not be the last election campaign we may see here in the coming year we may have a period of unstable well i'm an unstable government and new elections well a major reason it is the state solution israel palestinian conflict that seems to be in a shambles netanyahu wants more settlements how is that affecting his image at home . well i beg to differ it is perhaps in shambles right now because there is no initiative coming from either israel or outside of it however once president obama is just being inaugurated for his second term once he comes out with a major diplomatic initiative with secretary of state john kerry who is for such an initiative then most of the israeli public may turn against or against his own prime minister if he tries to to appear though such an initiative the silent majority in music once a solution and the only possible the only practical solution is the two state solution so we may yet see within the next year or two some breakthrough towards such a solution well let
administration so it's going to be a very tough month ahead for coalition forming and this may not be the last election campaign we may see here in the coming year we may have a period of unstable well i'm an unstable government and new elections well a major reason it is the state solution israel palestinian conflict that seems to be in a shambles netanyahu wants more settlements how is that affecting his image at home . well i beg to differ it is perhaps in shambles right now because there is...
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alternative energy agenda that the obama administration is pursuing as well. and on health care, there are particular parts of obamacare that congress may be able to slow down or stop. the piece is mostly a report on what the administration is doing, but it gives guidance to congress. one thing republicans in congress needs to think about is what they can accomplish in by sized chunks. there will not change health care in a conservative direction in the next four years or reform entitlements. can they accomplished a few good things that also point the way towards bigger things later? i thing maybe they can. host: our guest is bill kristol. our next call is from frederick, maryland, peter is on the republican line. thanks for waiting. caller: how are things? host: fine. sounds like you're listening to us on c-span radio. caller: yes, sir. but itod to listen to, plays havoc on my blood pressure. republicans have been losing for 30 years or more. they are up against a very liberal education system as well as a very liberal media in general. my expectation with ki
alternative energy agenda that the obama administration is pursuing as well. and on health care, there are particular parts of obamacare that congress may be able to slow down or stop. the piece is mostly a report on what the administration is doing, but it gives guidance to congress. one thing republicans in congress needs to think about is what they can accomplish in by sized chunks. there will not change health care in a conservative direction in the next four years or reform entitlements....
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the obama administration is equipping egypt with state-of-the-art weaponry despite the government's open hostility toward israel. shannon bream are telling us what you are spending the equipagess now. >> four american f-16 fighter jets are in egypt as a foreign age pact that some republican lawmakers believe should be reconsidered. in light of history of anti-semitic remarks by mohammed morsi. former head of the muslim brotherhood. >> we must not forget to nurse our children and grandchildren on hatred toward the jews. and all those who support them. >> morsi mocked president obama after his 2009 cairo speech. >> he uttered many lives he couldn't have fulfilled a single word even if he were sincere, which he is not. >> the military aid package part of a deal struck with then egyptian president hosni mubarak in 2010 includes 16 f-16 and 200 tanks. some member of congress fear egypt islamist leder could use the weapons against israel. >> i am scared to death, that israelis that i have met as i have been around the country there. people fighting for israel. to me is a forward outpost for us
the obama administration is equipping egypt with state-of-the-art weaponry despite the government's open hostility toward israel. shannon bream are telling us what you are spending the equipagess now. >> four american f-16 fighter jets are in egypt as a foreign age pact that some republican lawmakers believe should be reconsidered. in light of history of anti-semitic remarks by mohammed morsi. former head of the muslim brotherhood. >> we must not forget to nurse our children and...
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. >> ifill: but sparks flew when senate republicans accused the obama administration of deceiving the nation by initially suggesting the benghazi attack was something other than terrorism. senator ron johnson of wisconsin: >> we were misled that there were supposedly protests and then something sprang out of that, an assault sprang out of that. and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact... >> but could-- but, you know... >> ...and the american people could have known that within days, and they didn't know that. >> and-- with all due respect, the fact is we had four dead americans. >> i understand. >> was it because of a protest, or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some americans? what difference, at this point, does it make? it is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, senator. now, honestly, i will do my best to answer your questions about this. but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. >> ifill: republican john mccain pre
. >> ifill: but sparks flew when senate republicans accused the obama administration of deceiving the nation by initially suggesting the benghazi attack was something other than terrorism. senator ron johnson of wisconsin: >> we were misled that there were supposedly protests and then something sprang out of that, an assault sprang out of that. and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact... >> but could-- but, you know... >> ...and the american people...
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administration officials for any tangible wrongdoings. >> fran, do you think it was a waste of time? >> i do think it was a waste of time. it was unfortunate. you've had on family members on your program and i imagine myself as a family member if i lost somebody watching this. look, it was a waste of time to ask secretary clinton about the talking points given to ambassador susan rice. >> they seemed to spend a lot of time on talking points given to susan rice. >> right. when secretary clinton loses her temper in the senate hearing and says what difference does it make whether this was resulted from a protest or guys that went out for a walk and decided to kill americans and the right comeback is it does matter. if you want to solve the problem, you have to understand what caused that. >> let's play the moment. >> we were misled that there were protests and then something sprang out of that. that was ascertained that was not the fact. the american people could have known that within days and they didn't know that. >> with all due respect, the fact is we had four dead americans. was i
administration officials for any tangible wrongdoings. >> fran, do you think it was a waste of time? >> i do think it was a waste of time. it was unfortunate. you've had on family members on your program and i imagine myself as a family member if i lost somebody watching this. look, it was a waste of time to ask secretary clinton about the talking points given to ambassador susan rice. >> they seemed to spend a lot of time on talking points given to susan rice. >> right....